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	<title>Comments on: HP Photosmart Pro B8850 review</title>
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		<title>By: Malcolm Race</title>
		<link>http://www.printerville.net/2008/04/21/hp-photosmart-pro-b8850-review/comment-page-1/#comment-664</link>
		<dc:creator>Malcolm Race</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jul 2010 18:29:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My HP photosmart pro B8850 tells me that the ink cartridges are low and eventually empty at which stage it refuses to print until I renew the appropriate cartridge. Because of the pattern of useage (e.g. not having printed many coloured photos or documents) I&#039;m convinced that the cartridges are often not empty. How do I convince the printer to carry on printing until the cartridge really is empty?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My HP photosmart pro B8850 tells me that the ink cartridges are low and eventually empty at which stage it refuses to print until I renew the appropriate cartridge. Because of the pattern of useage (e.g. not having printed many coloured photos or documents) I&#8217;m convinced that the cartridges are often not empty. How do I convince the printer to carry on printing until the cartridge really is empty?</p>
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		<title>By: brigid</title>
		<link>http://www.printerville.net/2008/04/21/hp-photosmart-pro-b8850-review/comment-page-1/#comment-603</link>
		<dc:creator>brigid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jan 2010 22:41:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m looking forward to comments on Chris&#039;s concerns about longevity...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m looking forward to comments on Chris&#8217;s concerns about longevity&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://www.printerville.net/2008/04/21/hp-photosmart-pro-b8850-review/comment-page-1/#comment-596</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Dec 2009 18:44:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You neglect one important design failure in both printers. The NEDD, a device meant to determine if the printheads are clogged, will eventually become saturated with ink and need to be cleaned. Unfortunately this is a delicate sensor, and over the lifetime of the printer will eventually fail. Once this happens the daily cleaning cycle will start to use a large amount of ink and the cost of ownership will go way up.

The HP desktop pigment printer series is one to avoid, largely because it is not engineered with printer longevity in mind.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You neglect one important design failure in both printers. The NEDD, a device meant to determine if the printheads are clogged, will eventually become saturated with ink and need to be cleaned. Unfortunately this is a delicate sensor, and over the lifetime of the printer will eventually fail. Once this happens the daily cleaning cycle will start to use a large amount of ink and the cost of ownership will go way up.</p>
<p>The HP desktop pigment printer series is one to avoid, largely because it is not engineered with printer longevity in mind.</p>
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		<title>By: Rosemary Holusha</title>
		<link>http://www.printerville.net/2008/04/21/hp-photosmart-pro-b8850-review/comment-page-1/#comment-501</link>
		<dc:creator>Rosemary Holusha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 00:57:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I prefer to have a hard copy manual and I think the manufacturers are cheating without supplying one.  I do not want to spend time looking up answers online.  If you know of a large format printer within the B8850 price range, please let me know and I will buy it.  Until I have a hard copy manual in my hands I will continue to use a professional lab.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I prefer to have a hard copy manual and I think the manufacturers are cheating without supplying one.  I do not want to spend time looking up answers online.  If you know of a large format printer within the B8850 price range, please let me know and I will buy it.  Until I have a hard copy manual in my hands I will continue to use a professional lab.</p>
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		<title>By: suelowery</title>
		<link>http://www.printerville.net/2008/04/21/hp-photosmart-pro-b8850-review/comment-page-1/#comment-35</link>
		<dc:creator>suelowery</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 02:12:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rick, I want to be able to print at least 12 pt coated two sides &quot;board.&quot; Ideally, would like to do 18 pt, but my understanding is they don&#039;t make one that will do that heavy a weight. I suppose that would be close to 100lb or 110 cover weight for the 12 pt board. If you get a promotional pocket folder that holds paper,that is typically printed on 10pt. But have been frustrated that both HP1220 and 6800 will no longer print envelopes or even a peel and stick sheet of labels. I&#039;ve run all kinds of cleaners thru them. I need for small volume, if I were running several hundred to 1,000&#039;s would use commerical printer with digital output. 
thanks,
sue</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rick, I want to be able to print at least 12 pt coated two sides &#8220;board.&#8221; Ideally, would like to do 18 pt, but my understanding is they don&#8217;t make one that will do that heavy a weight. I suppose that would be close to 100lb or 110 cover weight for the 12 pt board. If you get a promotional pocket folder that holds paper,that is typically printed on 10pt. But have been frustrated that both HP1220 and 6800 will no longer print envelopes or even a peel and stick sheet of labels. I&#8217;ve run all kinds of cleaners thru them. I need for small volume, if I were running several hundred to 1,000&#8217;s would use commerical printer with digital output.<br />
thanks,<br />
sue</p>
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		<title>By: Rick</title>
		<link>http://www.printerville.net/2008/04/21/hp-photosmart-pro-b8850-review/comment-page-1/#comment-33</link>
		<dc:creator>Rick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 23:08:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve had a number of conversations with the printer folks about this whole thickness vs. weight issue, and it seems that there are no hard and fast conversion rules for different types of papers - thickness and weight (measured as grams/square meter).&lt;/br&gt;

The best inkjet printer I&#039;ve found for feeding and printing envelopes is the Stylus Pro 3800, although I was able to feed envelopes ok through the Photosmart Pro B9180 without having to use the manual feed tray.&lt;/br&gt;

The paper thickness issue is important, so we&#039;ll see what we can do to come up with some guidelines - do you have specific brands and weights of paper that you use? That would be helpful as we snake down this path.&lt;/br&gt;

Rick</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve had a number of conversations with the printer folks about this whole thickness vs. weight issue, and it seems that there are no hard and fast conversion rules for different types of papers &#8211; thickness and weight (measured as grams/square meter).</p>
<p>The best inkjet printer I&#8217;ve found for feeding and printing envelopes is the Stylus Pro 3800, although I was able to feed envelopes ok through the Photosmart Pro B9180 without having to use the manual feed tray.</p>
<p>The paper thickness issue is important, so we&#8217;ll see what we can do to come up with some guidelines &#8211; do you have specific brands and weights of paper that you use? That would be helpful as we snake down this path.</p>
<p>Rick</p>
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		<title>By: suelowery</title>
		<link>http://www.printerville.net/2008/04/21/hp-photosmart-pro-b8850-review/comment-page-1/#comment-32</link>
		<dc:creator>suelowery</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 19:33:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can you give me a &quot;graphic design&quot; paper weight of what .7mm thick translates to? I have looked, trying to find a conversion that helps me, but cannot find it. I need a printer that will print 12 pt to 18 pt &quot;board&quot; as it is labeled in the printing industry. AND, reliably print an envelope. I have an older HP1220 C and HP in the 6800 series and it is total frustration to print anything except copy paper weight. Also suggestions for any printers that will handle these weights for custom card promotions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can you give me a &#8220;graphic design&#8221; paper weight of what .7mm thick translates to? I have looked, trying to find a conversion that helps me, but cannot find it. I need a printer that will print 12 pt to 18 pt &#8220;board&#8221; as it is labeled in the printing industry. AND, reliably print an envelope. I have an older HP1220 C and HP in the 6800 series and it is total frustration to print anything except copy paper weight. Also suggestions for any printers that will handle these weights for custom card promotions.</p>
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		<title>By: HP Photosmart Pro B8850 review &#124; Printerville &#124; Journal of Modern Photography</title>
		<link>http://www.printerville.net/2008/04/21/hp-photosmart-pro-b8850-review/comment-page-1/#comment-28</link>
		<dc:creator>HP Photosmart Pro B8850 review &#124; Printerville &#124; Journal of Modern Photography</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 17:02:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] over at Printerville has an in-depth review of HP&#8217;s new Pro B8850, Little brother of the B9180. Now, hot on the heels of Epson’s Stylus [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] over at Printerville has an in-depth review of HP&#8217;s new Pro B8850, Little brother of the B9180. Now, hot on the heels of Epson’s Stylus [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Review: HP Photosmart Pro B8850 Printer at Imaging Insider</title>
		<link>http://www.printerville.net/2008/04/21/hp-photosmart-pro-b8850-review/comment-page-1/#comment-27</link>
		<dc:creator>Review: HP Photosmart Pro B8850 Printer at Imaging Insider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 04:01:52 +0000</pubDate>
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